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debbieejones
Member Since: 30th Sep 2014
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Software & Applications Trainer for over 16 years with the occasional dabble in Communications Skills and Presentation Skills training.

debbieejones
Head of Learning Managers, Digital Learning & Compliance Division The Access Group
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24th Sep 2015

I'll get looking through those, thanks Garry

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Why Use Fiddle Toys?
8th Sep 2015

Thank you all for your great suggestions.

Unfortunately, due to resources and demands of the teams, there wont be the possibility of splitting the groups by skill.

I, too, have suggested providing a longer game for this and following up with further bite sized sessions but my sponsor is not in favour as she fears once we release them in to the wild, we will not get them back. I'm still pushing it though as I have suggested linking it in with their PDRs (appraisals) and making it an official learning path but I'm not optimistic.

This session is also an 'add on' to the Induction already in place. The current Induction is controlled and designed by another team which I have suggested we try to work together with in order to provde a better joined up approach (Induction sits in L&D but as this is computer related, it falls under my team which is Systems Training - it will then get followed up with training in the specific applications required for their roles).

The evidence has come from feedback from staff and line managers saying they weren't provided with the skills they needed at the start of their appointment. They have blamed lack of training. We are an NHS organisation so the staff are 'people' focused and many have never learnt to use computers.

Paul, I think we are of the same thinking. I have taken the approach that the group will be split into mixed level teams which move around the activity stations I mentioned in my first post. Each station will have different challenges which will be a mix of webquests (to use your term Paul), discussion groups, quizes, contacting service desks (if I can get this agreed and doesn't cause too much disturbance). Each activity station will build on their skills which they will use to make a new starter brochure within their teams.

I love the idea of introducing other media and, although my first thought was 'that will never work' due to the restrictions of the organisation, however I'm already thinking of solutions to this which will engage the more skilled and tech savvy learners and I will think more on how I can incorporate a video clip too.

perspect1, good point at remembering to include the 'what's in it for me' discussion and to get them to commit to a next actions plan (although many of the learners will have little control over this when they start their actual jobs). It could feed into follow up evaluation or we could send them a reminder of what they said they would do to see if they had done it or needed any further help in achieving it.

I've made a start but I'm now waiting for that all important meeting with the Director of L&D in the hope we can build it into something more than just a 3.5 hour add on to the Induction.

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Keeping Everyone Engaged
17th Jul 2015

Hi there

Having done CIPD, TAP and PTLLS I think it very much depends on what type of training you deliver and on your type of organisation.

My feelings were that CIPD is very L&D Generalist and and was more for Leaders in the field. It was expected that the L&D practitioners had a direct involvement and influence on business strategy. Having trained in a Law firm, a college, the Police and NHS, I'd say this was only accurate for the Law firm.

PTLLS was more focused on teaching rather than training though some skills are transferable. Good for when I was a sessional lecturer in a college.

The TAP course I did was part of one of the (going back some years now) Institute of IT Trainers certified courses - they are now LPI as mentioned in Sue's reply. As an IT trainer I found this to be the best for my style of training and is probably the key one which has shaped my training style today and valuable in each of the areas I've worked (though I have taken good stuff from each of the courses).

A lot of organisations ask for CIPD and PTLLS (etc) but if I had an influence I'd push towards LPI.

This is of course just my personal preference and experience but I hope my insight helps a little.

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